Stargate Universe: The Worst Stargate Yet, the Best of the Worst, or Somewhere In-Between?

Take a glance at our reader comments section on our “Stargate: Universe” posts, and you’ll start to notice a couple of patterns: loyal fans of the previous two “Stargate” shows have almost no interest in the new “Universe” show besides going out of their way to call it every name in the book; meanwhile, non-fans of the franchise have grappled onto “Universe” but in doing so are making it be known that the previous two incarnations were utter shit in their opinion. And then there are those guys in-between, like me.

As a fan of “Stargate: SG1″ (I have seen every single episode more than once), but only a casual fan of “Stargate: Atlantis” (more of the same to me, but without the characters I loved), I approached “Universe” with great trepidation. Then the pilot aired, and as you can tell from my review, I dug it. In my opinion it has great potential, and its pluses far outweigh any minuses. Yes, I had issues with it. The sex scene in the beginning made me shake my head, not because I’m a prude or have anything against sex on TV, but my oh my it was just so … gratuitous.

The rest of the show? Dug it. I like the characters. The military types are still the tough and hands-on kind that I loved about the military characters on all the “Stargate” shows. The one major addition is the civilians. Let’s face it, civilians just never had all that much to do in “SG1″ (and to a similar extent, on “Atlantis”) except to show up every now and then to make our military guys’ life miserable with their bureaucracy and civvy nonsense. As you may have surmised, I was never a big fan of “SG1′s” planet-focused episodes, many of which were designed primarily to save money on production while the show geared up for its more space-focused episodes.

The premise of “Universe” remains excellent, and the pilot (and last week’s episode) continues to exceed my expectations. There are interpersonal conflicts, as there must be, but the people aren’t going around the ship shagging in corridors as I had feared ala “Battlestar Galactica”. At least, not yet. When it comes right down to it, this is still very much a “Stargate” show; it just isn’t the often-times vanilla-flavored brand that many “Stargate” fans have become accustomed to. Change is not an easy thing to accept, and I will admit I feared it as much as the rest of you after seeing all the promos, teasers, and pictures, but for the life of me, I don’t see why many think “Universe” is a complete repudiation of the franchise, because it is not by a longshot.

I opened this article by talking about patterns I’m seeing from comments on our “Stargate: Universe” posts, which basically boils down to two passionate sides: the one that believes this is not a “Stargate” show, therefore it must be hated with a passion; the other side seems to agree that this is not a “Stargate” show, but comes to a very different conclusion, which is because this is not a “Stargate” show, they are loving it.

One of the primary objections seems to be that the show features too many unlikeable characters. Robert Carlyle’s Nicholas Rush has not become a hit with “Stargate” fans as the producers probably thought. But the very reason why most people don’t like Rush is precisely the reason why he’s so interesting: he’s not supposed to be likeable, and you’re supposed to question this guy’s every motive. What fun would it be if Rush just fell in lock-step with our military heroes? There are plenty of likeable characters on the show: young Lieutenant Matthew Scott, when he’s not shagging a fellow soldier in the back room of a kitchen, has the makings of a fine leading man. Colonel Everett Young is an immensely likeable George Hammond-type. And Chloe Armstrong, though a tad bracing at first, is quickly growing on me. Even the ill-tempered Ronald Greer is becoming a favorite; he’s such a hardass, you can’t help but love the guy, especially since he values loyalty almost as much as he dislikes Rush and the rest of the civvy population.

One of the reasons why I believe some longtime “Stargate” fans may be reacting poorly to the new show is all the non-“Stargate” fans coming onboard with “Universe”; specifically, these non-fans’ reasons for finally jumping on the “Stargate” bandwagon. The newcomers seem unable to like “Universe” without throwing around terms like “cheesy” when it comes to the franchise up to this point, which I’m sure rubs a lot of “Stargate” loyalists the wrong way. And I don’t blame them, it’s only human nature. Think of it this way: it’s your party, but the guest list is different and the decorations are a little bit darker than you usually like it; then your neighbor shows up and starts chowing down on the nachos and gulping beer and tells you, with that condescending tone, that he digs this party, but only because it’s not as shitty as your previous parties. Yeah, that tends to rub people the wrong way, alright.

But let’s further follow up on this “I like ‘Universe’ because it’s not like the previous shows” train of thought. I will grant you that “SG1″ rarely ventured past the PG landscape, but that was one of its charms. It managed to tell an exciting, intergalactic story without having to indulge in crass language, gross violence, or flashing T&A. “SG1″ was good old fashioned storytelling that parents knew they could sit down to watch with their kids and not have to constantly cover the little one’s ears or eyes at the inappropriate parts. Those who are praising “Universe” while gleefully insulting the two previous series (but in particular “SG1″) are misguided. “Universe” is still very much a “Stargate” show, it just has a new cast, a new setting, and a tad grittier approach. But it’s still the same writers and producers, so really, how much different could it possibly be? You’re deluding yourself if you think “Universe” is a complete departure from the franchise, because it’s not.

So, conclusion: “Stargate: Universe” is a different version of “Stargate”, but it’s still “Stargate”. Sure, the corridors are darker, the characters greasier, and the civilians more prominent, but three episodes in and it’s still very much a “Stargate” show to me. For those who are hating on it because it’s not “Atlantis”, my advice is to get over it, and enjoy “Universe” because I promise you, it’s really not as bad as you may have heard, or initially thought from the pilot. And for those who tuned into “Universe” and liked it, do yourself a favor and actually watch “SG1” with an open mind. You’ll be surprised how much you end up digging it, PG “cheese” and all.

Can't we all just get along?

Can't we all just get along?


  • Kev

    This new show I thought would be great, and OMG they have Robert Carlise one of the best british actors, and yet the show is complete crap. i have sat through 4 episodes now and nothing is happening. Its slow lacks direction and is complete old school lost fish trying to get home. It might as well been written for Startrek Voyager same sort of senario. Sorry but unless it heats up this load of shite will fail at the first season.

  • Name

    im a fan of sg1 and atlantis. This stargate unhiverse hust gives the franchise a bad name, i mean what the fuck is with the fat kid he’s crap. the show is boring there stranded in space on a ship very much like the end episode of sg1, boooring! No enemies, no action, were stranded story, what a load of crap.

  • Anonymous

    As someone who has seen every episode of every stargate show more than once and even suffered the cartoon I feel confident in saying this is most Definitely a Stargate show. Yes I have fears about this show turning into Battlestar:Voyager. I hope the show’s potential, of which there is a tonne, keeps that from happening. Although I have to say. I just can’t agree with you can Cloe Armstrong is anything other than a waste of space. Stargate is not melrose place or grey’s anatomy. We don’t need the sordid love triangle. Especially with such a unmoving, always moaning, forever clingy character. If she dies a nice slow painful death I’d be happy. While Greer was a little over acted initially, his appearance and actions in “Light” were class. I see great action scenes in his future. Though I have to wonder? His sitting naked on the bed…. Eye candy for the female viewers? Or what was that all about? But to get back on topic. Universe is indeed (yes I used that on purpose) a Stargate show.It is aimed at, in my opinion, the folks who are new to Scifi courtesy of BSG. I also believe fans like myself who have followed and grown with Stargate will enjoy the show providing some of the kinks can be ironed out. Namely a stronger female presence and a little less overacting. The latter I believe will come naturally. Here’s hoping!

  • Braky

    Why are they spending so much time recording dumb messages for posterity hoping someone will someday find it, when they have a communication device (or six) to talk directly to people back to Earth? Did I miss something? What next for SGU? Will the ship fight off some unknown enemy all by itself, then find them supplies? Maybe it will stop at a planet containing a decent script?

    Don’t dare compare this to the fantastic BSG, they were at war and we knew it. There was religion, politics, betrayal, everything, including the brilliant filming, acting and the best soundtack ever.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not comparing it to BSG, I,m saying they are trying to make it like BSG and failing miserably

  • ethan

    I love Stargate, the original movie. I’ve tried over and over again to get into SG1 and just couldn’t. I’ve watched a few episodes of every season and still, it just has nothing of what makes me love the Stargate film. But I keep coming back to it hoping maybe it would grow on me. After seeing the first three episodes of Stargate Universe I finally feel like it’s finally a show that sits easily with the tone and style of the original film. It’s not prefect but I’m enjoying it.

  • Yon

    SGU is very boring!

  • Kugel

    I think fans of SG1 and SGA are missing some critical points…in those series nearly everyone who went through the stargate wanted to do something unique…explore space, meet new people, go on an adventure…thats what fans would do if we had our own stargate. I’ve never dreamed of landing on a rusty space ship on the other side of the universe, with a bunch of strangers, knowing I dont have enough food, water or a working bathroom; getting taken for a ride I have no control over and maybe never going home…well who knows what anyone would do. Its dark, brooding and trying to find the best in people when all they want to do is survive..well..it is Stargate but nothing like what we would want to experience. But that is good drama. The question remains…will we want to watch these characters struggle with that or get turned off and watch something else with a happy ending every week. Time will tell.

  • Jenni

    Rush is a tosser.. To help his 2 job Glasgow story.The writers got it sooo wrong. You are not allowed to hold a job if you attend Cambridge the first 2 years. Its been that way since the Victorian times. Also, there are no ”proper docks” in Glasgow. Its basically land locked. If he would have said, Endinburgh then ok.. Also, What is up with his ”pikey” attitude and poor enunication of words. Even a Glaswegian would have takin on some form of educated dialect attending Cambridge.

    Also, Eli is the best charachetr so far, the medic is very 7 of 9 ish, dont you think. I bet Eli has the ”ancient gene” like Col. O’Neil..

  • Regardless

    I understand that the show is going in a different direction which is fine. Creative directors are allowed to take chances. My problems do not lie necessarily with what they are doing but how they are doing it. If you are going to try and make a series believable or unpredictable or even interesting there has to be more than just character development. There needs to be a plot within an episode that is interesting enough for people to take a step back and suspend belief.

    Now in the second episode when the ship starts flying towards the sun and they start talking about how the ship is going to get destroyed I don’t buy it. You know that at the last second something is going to happen and they will all live happily ever after–it smacks of the last minute miracles that made Atlantis more and more unrealistic and contrived.

    Plus the whole idea of making people invested in characters is the storyline behind said characters. I didn’t start loving the original characters of Stargate solely because of who they were but because of the plot that drove their development (aside from the static level they achieved by season 7).

    The point simply is that I am not invested enough in the story to watch an episode about the commander and his wife for a good 10 minutes without any plot development for the entire episode. I am open to the idea of changing the way the Stargate franchise works but it is going to need to do a better job if it wants to stay on the air– hype and “trying new things” will only get you a season or two tops before ratings drop and shows are cancelled.