Stargate Universe: The Worst Stargate Yet, the Best of the Worst, or Somewhere In-Between?

Sci-Fi Featured Articles, Sci-Fi TV News, Stargate: Universe TV Series — By Nix on October 12, 2009

Take a glance at our reader comments section on our “Stargate: Universe” posts, and you’ll start to notice a couple of patterns: loyal fans of the previous two “Stargate” shows have almost no interest in the new “Universe” show besides going out of their way to call it every name in the book; meanwhile, non-fans of the franchise have grappled onto “Universe” but in doing so are making it be known that the previous two incarnations were utter shit in their opinion. And then there are those guys in-between, like me.

As a fan of “Stargate: SG1″ (I have seen every single episode more than once), but only a casual fan of “Stargate: Atlantis” (more of the same to me, but without the characters I loved), I approached “Universe” with great trepidation. Then the pilot aired, and as you can tell from my review, I dug it. In my opinion it has great potential, and its pluses far outweigh any minuses. Yes, I had issues with it. The sex scene in the beginning made me shake my head, not because I’m a prude or have anything against sex on TV, but my oh my it was just so … gratuitous.

The rest of the show? Dug it. I like the characters. The military types are still the tough and hands-on kind that I loved about the military characters on all the “Stargate” shows. The one major addition is the civilians. Let’s face it, civilians just never had all that much to do in “SG1″ (and to a similar extent, on “Atlantis”) except to show up every now and then to make our military guys’ life miserable with their bureaucracy and civvy nonsense. As you may have surmised, I was never a big fan of “SG1’s” planet-focused episodes, many of which were designed primarily to save money on production while the show geared up for its more space-focused episodes.

The premise of “Universe” remains excellent, and the pilot (and last week’s episode) continues to exceed my expectations. There are interpersonal conflicts, as there must be, but the people aren’t going around the ship shagging in corridors as I had feared ala “Battlestar Galactica”. At least, not yet. When it comes right down to it, this is still very much a “Stargate” show; it just isn’t the often-times vanilla-flavored brand that many “Stargate” fans have become accustomed to. Change is not an easy thing to accept, and I will admit I feared it as much as the rest of you after seeing all the promos, teasers, and pictures, but for the life of me, I don’t see why many think “Universe” is a complete repudiation of the franchise, because it is not by a longshot.

I opened this article by talking about patterns I’m seeing from comments on our “Stargate: Universe” posts, which basically boils down to two passionate sides: the one that believes this is not a “Stargate” show, therefore it must be hated with a passion; the other side seems to agree that this is not a “Stargate” show, but comes to a very different conclusion, which is because this is not a “Stargate” show, they are loving it.

One of the primary objections seems to be that the show features too many unlikeable characters. Robert Carlyle’s Nicholas Rush has not become a hit with “Stargate” fans as the producers probably thought. But the very reason why most people don’t like Rush is precisely the reason why he’s so interesting: he’s not supposed to be likeable, and you’re supposed to question this guy’s every motive. What fun would it be if Rush just fell in lock-step with our military heroes? There are plenty of likeable characters on the show: young Lieutenant Matthew Scott, when he’s not shagging a fellow soldier in the back room of a kitchen, has the makings of a fine leading man. Colonel Everett Young is an immensely likeable George Hammond-type. And Chloe Armstrong, though a tad bracing at first, is quickly growing on me. Even the ill-tempered Ronald Greer is becoming a favorite; he’s such a hardass, you can’t help but love the guy, especially since he values loyalty almost as much as he dislikes Rush and the rest of the civvy population.

One of the reasons why I believe some longtime “Stargate” fans may be reacting poorly to the new show is all the non-“Stargate” fans coming onboard with “Universe”; specifically, these non-fans’ reasons for finally jumping on the “Stargate” bandwagon. The newcomers seem unable to like “Universe” without throwing around terms like “cheesy” when it comes to the franchise up to this point, which I’m sure rubs a lot of “Stargate” loyalists the wrong way. And I don’t blame them, it’s only human nature. Think of it this way: it’s your party, but the guest list is different and the decorations are a little bit darker than you usually like it; then your neighbor shows up and starts chowing down on the nachos and gulping beer and tells you, with that condescending tone, that he digs this party, but only because it’s not as shitty as your previous parties. Yeah, that tends to rub people the wrong way, alright.

But let’s further follow up on this “I like ‘Universe’ because it’s not like the previous shows” train of thought. I will grant you that “SG1″ rarely ventured past the PG landscape, but that was one of its charms. It managed to tell an exciting, intergalactic story without having to indulge in crass language, gross violence, or flashing T&A. “SG1″ was good old fashioned storytelling that parents knew they could sit down to watch with their kids and not have to constantly cover the little one’s ears or eyes at the inappropriate parts. Those who are praising “Universe” while gleefully insulting the two previous series (but in particular “SG1″) are misguided. “Universe” is still very much a “Stargate” show, it just has a new cast, a new setting, and a tad grittier approach. But it’s still the same writers and producers, so really, how much different could it possibly be? You’re deluding yourself if you think “Universe” is a complete departure from the franchise, because it’s not.

So, conclusion: “Stargate: Universe” is a different version of “Stargate”, but it’s still “Stargate”. Sure, the corridors are darker, the characters greasier, and the civilians more prominent, but three episodes in and it’s still very much a “Stargate” show to me. For those who are hating on it because it’s not “Atlantis”, my advice is to get over it, and enjoy “Universe” because I promise you, it’s really not as bad as you may have heard, or initially thought from the pilot. And for those who tuned into “Universe” and liked it, do yourself a favor and actually watch “SG1” with an open mind. You’ll be surprised how much you end up digging it, PG “cheese” and all.

Can't we all just get along?

Can't we all just get along?


    45 Comments

  • Puzzlefighter says:

    SGU is just too serious. It's simply not as fun as the others. It's relatively dark and somber, and the fact that it is so serious makes all the extreme tech that much more intolerably unbelievable. Additionally, the premise of the show at this point is truly just survival, as the trailers all indicated. However, just because I was told it would be lame doesn't mean that it is OK to have a lame show. We've gone from worrying about our entire planet's survival, even entire galaxies' survivals, to worrying about 50 persons trapped on a ship. This series could have been a single episode in either SG1 or SGA.

  • Nix says:

    That's a good point. It is quite “life and death” all the time, every time. I think, once the initial “let's survive on the ship” episodes are done with (I believe we have maybe two more to go?), we may get more episodes showing the lighter side of things. Hopefully. But you're correct — it can't, and shouldn't be so depressingly serious all the time.

  • Name says:

    I approached the pilot with a very positive frame of mind and ended up really disappointed. I'm one of those in-between people the writer is talking about, not rabid fan but not casual viewer, and I watch a lot of scifi. The characters are mostly underwritten. I don't even remember most of their names. A dark series does not have to be literally dark. An alien ship should be more interesting and I don't know…alien? I don't think it is exactly treading new ground. There were a lot of cliches. And as for the sex scene. I missed it. I was in the kitchen. SGU may yet pull itself together as a series. But will I still be there to see it?

  • Nix says:

    Well there's no law that says you can't come back in Season 2 and catch up. Happened to me with “Supernatural”. Saw the pilot, didn't care for it, but after catching an episode here and there in Season 3 and liking what I saw, I went back and watched the previous seasons and got caught up.

  • ROFL says:

    ROFL, Nix is now screening comments also just because I didn't agree with him, looks like he can't get over people doesn't like SGU.

    Doesn't matter, 2 other poster already posted why SGU still sucks despite the positive spin.

    Keep deleting this and I'll make a bot to auto post this in random intervals under 1000 different ips around the globe

  • Nix says:

    Screening? No, I simply deleted your comments because you kept posting under different names saying the same thing. (You are the “Stargate is gay” poster, correct? No, don't bother to deny it, IP doesn't lie.) Dude, I don't care if you don't like this show; 90% of the people who posted in the SGU threads don't like the show, and I haven't deleted their posts. But if you're going to dislike the show, be a man about it and stop posting under different names like some coward. At least own up to your posts. Fair enough?

  • ROFL says:

    Top lying, WTF has the name got to do with anything. You have 3 SGU review topics, I posted 1 in each, someone replyed me also but you also deleted his comment together with mine. Instead of keeping 1 you deleted ALL of them, this is what I posted:

    SGU = Some Gay Universe

    There is a reason why stuff like doors and mugs maintained the same basic shape over thousands of years:
    They just work.

    And SGU doesn't work. because someone in a board room decided he has to prove himself by being totally different and killed SGA.

    I still had hope after ep1 and ep2, but after watching ep3, that hope is gone.

    No matter how you spin it, there is just an aura of gayness surrounding SGU.

    I've looked everywhere and the only defence the supporters of SGU can come up with is “they're trying something new”

    LOL, the problem was never “trying something new”, the problem is they killed SGA so they can use try this piece of crap attacged to the stargate brand.

    This is the equvalent of FIFA changing the football rules, forbid running and allow players to use their hands at all times in the next worldcup.

    There's nothing wrong with the rules themselves, but if you destroy what was good and replace it with something totally lame, you will be ridiculed.

    SGU is now the offical soap opera for gay and lesbians.

  • Nix says:

    I didn't delete his post, but once your post was deleted, his was deleted automatically since it depended on your post to be “replied to”. In any case, I suggest you clean up your act and try to post like an adult. Going around calling the show “gay” in every thread isn't going to win you converts. You're free to rant all you want, but stop being a child about it. You probably think you're making a point, but all you're doing is reinforcing what people already think of Stargate fans, that they're a bunch of children who can only stomach childish shows, etc. You're basically making guys like me, who defend all the Stargate shows whenever he can, look bad. Get a grip and grow up.

    • stargate fan says:

      Actually, the idea that SGU is just too gay may in fact be part of the problem as far as the show turning off long time supporters of the franchise.

      With today being in February 2010 and now having seen ten episodes I can speak with a great deal of conviction SGU is just a very badly done show. It lacks any characters that are likeable ( with Eli in his goofy immaturity probably most likeable). Then the idea that elite scientists that in a real world expedition would not have been screened to exclude folks not capable of coping with potentially dangerous situations is simply not believable. These folks were off world in a top secret scientific facility so the nut cases on Destiny could have never been off world to begin with. It just does not add up as being possible. When you add in the terribly flawed story lines, dead slow and boring presentation it all combines to be a terrible show. I know immature people that lack real world experience are drawn to the lusty idea of large breasted woman or women on woman sex and would think the show great but it still is badly done. .

      Folks like me that have followed the franchise starting with the very first movie, and then catching SG1 on Showtime and then Syfy viewing every episode multiple times I believe I can have a basis for my opinion. The show may be able to keep enough longtime supporters and gain enough newbys to stay on air for a while but unless something meaningful is done the Stargate franchise is on its way down. I am saddened and already miss it.

  • Basil Murad says:

    Dude, don't let this idiot get to you man, he's just a lowly troll. Don't even bother giving him a reason to push your buttons, just let him (or she, or it?) be. Sheesh, never did I expect SGU to cause this much a stir, I think I see what's coming next…

  • humptygrumpty says:

    Enjoyed reading that mate. A question : since the show has changed so much, is it more constructive to judge it against (where it's pitching itself at) other similar shows; Lost, BSGm etc, — or SG1 et SGA. I'm coming round re: Rush, still can't stand him – but I thought I had misinterpreted him for the first few episodes, but he's actually a character you just simply don't like and I guess this gives them a room for development over the season.

    But sometimes there's just cringe moments – delivering the news to the senators wife… that acting was : terrible. And why I asked the first question (under the assumption of course that you've seen Lost) – do you remember episodes with acting like that? heheh… mibbe there were and I've blocked them out.

    I'm entertained for sure, genuinely interested in where it will go, and am liking most of the characters – eli's good!

    Anywhoo!

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