Another Stargate Universe Producer Takes Umbrage with SGU Criticism

This is actually getting pretty amusing. As you’ll recall, last week we posted a blog posting by “Stargate: Universe” producer Joseph Mallozzi, who fired back at critics of “SGU” through his blog. Today, SciFiWire has another intriguing fight with another “SGU” producer over the show, except this time “SGU” producer Brad Wright is picking the fight not with fans, but with a newspaper columnist who dared to call his show anything but great.

So, it begins with Chicago Tribune’s TV reviewer Maureen Ryan writing this during her positive review of ABC’s new show “V”:

(And let’s face it, we sci-fi fans are a frequently disappointed lot. ABC hasn’t quite managed to quite recapture the magic of “Lost” with any of its subsequent genre-flavored offerings. “FlashForward” still seems like a show that is more about its concept than its characters. And the other notable fall genre offering, Syfy’s “Stargate Universe,” is a boring, poorly plotted, lamentably sexist mess.)

Brad Wright apparently reads reviews on the net, or at least reviews from actual, honest-to-goodness “pro” critics (aka the ones who get paid to actually write them), and took great umbrage, and replied to Ryan’s last-second slagging of his show in the comments section:

“Maureen, I find people who write ‘I have no axe to grind’ are often the ones most likely to grind axes. Taking the time to slam ‘SGU’ in your review for ‘V’ is not politically tinged, it’s just petty. I really wish you hadn’t given up on our show so quickly. I was surprised, considering your past (occasional) support of the franchise. You can’t have seen a finished version of ‘Darkness’ or ‘Light’ because the weren’t even closed to being finished at the time of your review. I don’t know what the network sent you. ‘SGU’ seems to be a love it or hate it sort of show. You obviously fall in the latter camp, but fortunately there are enough viewers and reviewers who think ‘SGU’ is neither boring, poorly plotted, or sexist to keep us on the air long after ‘V’ is just a letter in the alphabet again.”

Ryan has since responded to the comment, writing:

First and foremost, I can’t think of anyone in the mainstream media who, before “Stargate Universe” premiered, was more predisposed to give it a chance.

I’ve watched every episode of “Stargate SG-1″ and probably about half of “Stargate Atlantis,” and I’ve done multiple features and reviews on both shows. And I’ve watched and championed many dark, multilayered, complicated dramas such as “The Wire,” “Battlestar Galactica” and “The Shield,” among others. I wish I had a dime for every time I’ve used the word “gritty” or “ambiguous” in a review.

So the idea of show that combined elements of the “Stargate” franchise with the kind of morally complex storytelling we saw on those shows certainly sounded good to me on paper.

After I watched the first three hours of “SGU,” well, you could say I had reservations. At that point, I asked Syfy for additional episodes. So before I wrote my review, I’d seen a total five hours of the show (“Air,” Parts 1-3, “Darkness” and “Earth”). In other words, I went out of my way to see as much of the show as I could before writing about it.

In short, she wanted to like it, and she saw more episodes than we did, and she still thinks it’s total shit.

It certainly seems like all the negativity towards the show is getting to the producers. They tried something new without taking into consideration the franchise’s massive fanbase, or perhaps they did it anyway and taking the fanbase for granted, and it, well, just didn’t quite work out as they expected.

This is all very unfortunate, because as we’ve made it clear on SciFiCool, we’re actually fans of the show, even if I’m starting to get a little worn out by all the “survival storylines”. This week’s episode, though, looks incredibly promising: a pure sci-fi/thriller of an episode that finally stops with the moping around looking for water, air, Earth, etc, and actually gets back to what makes thrilling sci-fi. An actual — gasp! — cool plot.

We know what'll shut those nerds up. More cleavage! Woot!

We know what'll shut those nerds up. More cleavage! Woot!


  • Asgard

    The Asgard blew themselves up. Why? They were copies of copies. The “Law of diminishing returns”. SGU Is a copy of a copy of a copy of Voyage, BSG, heavily watered down SG1 and SGA.

    When you make a copy of a copy, you are going to lose quality. If they were going to use the name Stargate, they should have not made these changes, some good and some awful, too quickly.

  • Jorian Drake

    Let's say this first: I do not hate the series, and I have a different view on a few characters

    but

    most of what others wrote about it is sadly true, the series tries to be Battlestar Galactica with unnecessary or unrelated sex, the soldier guy who seems to have sex since the pilot looks to me like somekind of rabbit commando, and the shaking camera makes my head hurt, it actually makes me sea sick from watching and I start to hate the series just because of this, without the drunken camera it would actually might be decent

    as I mentioned I like a few things others criticize, Eli as example is the only character that is similar to the other Stargate series characters of SG-1 and Atlantis atleast in spirit, having his own little wacky character bugs and as a gamer nerd having his first love is fun to see, on the other hand, the little princess girl of the senator is only looking nice until now and didn't really do much to make the audience like her, especially since she became the sex doll of Mr. Rabbit Commando

    I do not like the character Rush neither, as others, but at the same time I realize that he was MEANT to be hated/disliked. Sadly I think most of the characters we will only get to know in 5-10 more episodes later, or about the time the Destiny reaches the place where the other Ancient ship – the one before theirs – traveled to.

    I guess Rush has more to offer, but the prodcers keep too many secrets at the same time about the characters, so we are stuck with knowing noone (except Eli), trusting noone, and feeling nothing at all about the people, even if they die or get shot or whatever. It is like watching unknown people die on TV news, we just think “not my problem”. This is a disaster for a series.

    The creators of SGU messed up big time in what others also pointed out by now: No connection to most of the characters, not even symphaty, this part actually feels as if it was a try to imitate Lost and died trying.

    I like Eli because he is just as the watchers of this series, eager to try something new and great he joined the SGU team and then got thrown right into the middle of this chaotic mess where you do not find your own place. Without him, I think I would not watch the series anymore.

    To point out: I liked Battlestar Galactica, Lost, and other series this seems to have been cloned from using some bad DNS using radiation and duct tape, and I also watched every single episode of all the Stargate related episode or movie until now, so I do not talk as a sim ple Stargate fan, but as a TV fan.

    Without some quick changes to the pace of this series, the stop to the shaking camera, the true introduction of the characters, and making the mood more similar to what the Stargate franchise is really about, I do not give the series more than 3 years.

    Yes 3, 3 because one is sure to happen, second is already in works I bet, and the wrath of the fans (not just Stargate but all of TV) is thus likely to hit SGU on its thrid year.

    SG-1 was long, really long and people liked it, then came Atlantis, it was also liked but only got about half the lifetime SG-1 had, now if nothing changes about SGU, I give it about half the time of existence Atlantis had.

    Maybe a few people didn't like that the style of Stargate remained the same for this long, but then again, the style of Star Wars was also not changed without a loss in fans and support, and without complains. If Stargate was good as it was until now, why change it? The formula worked, right?

    SGU tries to improve the antidote for an illness but utterly fails and made it into a deadly poison instead. The last question that remains is:

    Will there be survivors after taking the poison who became immune as a side-effect to the illness aswell, or is the poison just killing everyone quicker than the illness itself?

    PS: I do not post usually about series ön the internet, but I did it this time because I WANT SGU to succeed, but it does not seem to be the case because design failures, I hope that my thoughts might be considered by a few people who have a say in this matter when they look for comments over the episode browsing the net, and change the course of this Titanic in time, before it hits the ice.

    If you have thoughts on my post what you wish to share with me just e-mail me as I don't think I will look later into this thread. jorian@freemail.hu

    Thanks you for taking your time to read my mumbling :)

  • TomH.

    So folks any news, Was looking for the new season details. I read the postings, I agree. It is like they took battlestar writers and created a soap opera. Guess those folks were cheap and on the market. What is with all the cliff hangers and incomplete stories, one show, one story.

  • Jamesiha

    Cheap cardboard copy of BSG with a Stargate.

  • treborc

    Way to much arguments and hate and to much feeling about themselves for god sake.

    It’s about people stuck on a space shit it should be exciting interesting, not boring. every time I watch it they are either arguing or looking for the one who will stab them in the back, not from out side but within the group.

    they say this is not star gate to bloody right it’s not